Saturday, October 17, 2009

Parallels

Former Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson in 1967 talking about the attempt by African Americans for equality:
There is no doubt that the so-called Civil Rights movement as it exists today is used as a communist program for revolution in America
Current Member of the Mormon Quorum of the Twelve Apostles Dallin H. Oaks talking about the attempt by homosexuals for marriage equality:
Among the most threatening collisions in the United States today are (1) the rising strength of those who seek to silence religious voices in public debates, and (2) perceived conflicts between religious freedom and the popular appeal of newly alleged civil rights.
'So-called civil rights' and 'alleged civil rights'. I find this hilarious. You know what they say, Wrong once, wrong twice, wrong a thousand times, those mormons are never going to fucking learn.

This is even more ironic when you consider that they're trying to compare themselves to the blacks when, just like they're fighting against the gays now, they fought against the blacks then. Can you say, irony?

Thursday, October 15, 2009

The Mormons do it again

You know who's an asshole? Dallin Oaks, of the Mormon church. I'll even call him by his cult title 'Elder' only because he's so old and ignorant.

So, Oaks proclaimed quite a few stupid things this week. First, he compared the ridicule of Mormons after Prop 8 is the same as the oppression of African Americans during the Civil Rights Movement. Yes, being ridiculed for oppressing others is the same as being oppressed. I don't think Oaks even knows the definition of 'logic'.
Even as we seek to speak with love, we must not be surprised when our positions are ridiculed and we are persecuted and reviled. As the Savior said, “so persecuted they the prophets which were before you”
Yes, if everyone around you is saying you're wrong you...are right? Wait, what? You lost me, Oaks. If reality says one thing and you say another, which is right?
Third, we must insist on our freedom to preach the doctrines of our faith. Why do I make this obvious point? Religious people who share our moral convictions feel some intimidation. Fortunately, our leaders do not refrain from stating and explaining our position that homosexual behavior is sinful.
Yes, you do have that freedom and the rest of the world has the freedom to tell you how much of an ignorant, bigoted, self-righteous asshole you're being.
Fourth, as advocates of the obvious truth that persons with religious positions or motivations have the right to express their religious views in public, we must nevertheless be wise in our political participation.
No one is saying you don't have the right to say what you want, they're just making fun of you for it. Oaks needs, very desperately, to learn the difference between ridicule and oppression. The Mormons are being ridiculed, not oppressed.

Also, he's right, they do need to be 'wise in our political participation'. That's a brilliant idea. When are you going to start? I'd like to know because, so far, you've been as dumb as a brick.
Religious values and political realities are so interlinked in the origin and perpetuation of this nation that we cannot lose the influence of Christianity in the public square without seriously jeopardizing our freedoms.
Yes, because your Sky Daddy makes morals so if his fingers aren't up the rectum of America, then America is going to become evil or some shit, right? No, you're wrong again, Oaks.

There's so many other lies in that speech, I could go on all day. I'll just say this: Dallin K. Oaks is a dick.

The whole speech can be found here.

Tuesday, October 6, 2009

Marriage equality in the real world.

"One of the reasons that many Parents find themselves torn over the issue of slavery is the fear that their parental rights to teach their children right from wrong will be stripped away. They fear that they will be put in a position where they must either pull their children out of public school, or put-up with the potential conflict when Schools teach that black people are equal to white people, and that those that teach otherwise (like their parents) are bigots."

I pulled this from http://www.maine4marriage.org/ with a few little changes.

How about:

"One of the reasons that many Parents find themselves torn over the issue of gender equality is the fear that their parental rights to teach their children right from wrong will be stripped away. They fear that they will be put in a position where they must either pull their children out of public school, or put-up with the potential conflict when Schools teach that women are equal to men, and that those that teach otherwise (like their parents) are bigots."


History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man.

I just don't understand why religious people are so proud to be so ignorant and controlling. Gay marriage is an issue of equality. You're either for everyone being equal when it comes to marriage or some people being treated better than others. I'm sorry equality is such a harsh concept you don't want your children to learn of.

Keep them ignorant for all I care. Our children, those of us that aren't assholes, will live in a better and brighter future whether you like it or not. The fight for equal marriage is far from over but, just like racial equality, just like gender equality, marriage equality will finish with our side the victors.